Rhem-Westhoff

Assignment V  - Dirty Little Secrets

EDT646

03/02/06

 

Introduction

 

Tom Friedman writes that he believes America has what it takes to compete in a global, flat world but questions whether individually and collectively Americans are doing what it takes to upgrade our educational skills, particularly in math and science to continue investing in what he calls “the secrets of the American sauce.” (p. 252) Shirley Ann Jackson, the 2004 president of the American Association for the Advancement of Science speaks of a steady erosion of America’s scientific and engineering base.  To lose this source of American innovation, she says is a “quiet crisis.” (p. 253)

 

Not long after reading the chapter in Friedman’s book The World Is Flat, where he describes the quiet crisis mentioned above, I read articles contradicting the level of crisis spelled out by Friedman and Shirley Ann Jackson. While I think Friedman and Jackson are more right than wrong, and I agree we need to refocus ourselves to remain competitive in this country, I also think the data referred to in the articles is valid.  In fact one of the articles argues that the doomsayers regarding technology jobs being outsourced are actually one of the reasons fewer students are majoring/graduating in these high tech fields. The U.S. certainly needs to do some retooling as a country but perhaps things are not quite as dire as Friedman and Jackson suggest.  The articles I speak of can be found at the following URLs:

 

“Computing Error” - http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/01/opinion/01wed3.html?

 

“Study Plays Down Export of Computer Jobs” –

                                  http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/23/technology/23outsource.html?

 

(If the latter URL prompts you for a Times Select login and you cannot read the article, I can send it to you.)

 

The interview portion of this assignment begins below.  The interviewees include six students in the 17 – 20 age group, four adults from the Generation X era (born 1962 – 1981) and three adults from the Boomers era (born 1945 – 1961).

 

 

Interviews

Appendix I
Electronic Interview Questions

Thanks for your willingness to help me out. For my class, we read the book “The World is Flat: A brief history of the 21st century. In this book, Friedman discusses what he calls this “quiet crisis” by suggesting three “dirty little secrets” we may not be noticing in America. For this interview/survey, you are asked to share your knowledge and understanding of the three secrets

First, a “numbers gap” is emerging that will “sap America’s prowess in science, math and engineering.” The nation’s scientists and engineers, and those teaching science, are retiring in huge numbers, and American young people are not entering those fields in nearly sufficient numbers. Foreign-born people account for an ever-increasing percentage of America’s science and engineering workers.

What is your knowledge/understanding of the numbers gap?

Second, we have an “ambition gap
.” While this may seem an unfairly harsh generalization, Friedman suggests that too many American young people have grown up with plenty and with a sense of entitlement. They too often lack a feeling of needing to work hard to attain a better standard of living. They already have the good life. In contrast, Asian and Indian students are often extremely motivated, much as the great grandparents of today’s American students were when they first came to America.

What is your knowledge/understanding of the ambition gap?

Friedman refers to the third aspect of the “quiet crisis” as the “education gap.” He maintains that we’ve got to find ways to stimulate more of our young children to do better in science and math. “Johns Hopkins University President Bill Brody remarked to me, ‘Over 60 percent of our graduate students in the sciences are foreign students.’”

What is your knowledge/understanding of the education gap?

 

 

Appendix II

Interviews - Ages 17- 20 

Answers from 6 students enrolled in the Internet, Network & Securities Technology Class at the Muskegon Area Career Tech Center (Juniors & Seniors in High School)

 

 What is your knowledge/understanding of the numbers gap?

1.     I have not given this much thought before; everybody knows the Asians are great in math though.

2.     No. I did not know this but I do not think they have an edge on us with computer knowledge. My friends and I are great with computers and plan to be security/protocol analysts.  Those jobs are going nowhere – we will have to be onsite.  Can you say six figures??!

3.     I have heard of this and I think they need to have more hands on labs with math and science.  Those classes can seem boring and irrelevant.  I hear in college most math teachers are foreign and nobody can understand them!

4.     I have heard of this. Are there more Asians and Indians going to college because it is more affordable?  How much marketing is put into those fields, what I mean is, are these kids told

their entire time in school that the choices to be successful include only engineering?

5.   Yes, I think lots of kids are going into technology related fields. They just may not qualify as

      engineering jobs.   There are computer degrees in most Colleges of Business for example. 

6.   Those people are just good in math and science. I don’t know why.  Maybe that is all they do

      over there.  It is a cultural thing I think and yes I have heard of it, I just didn’t hear it called a

      numbers gap.

 

 

What is your knowledge/understanding of the ambition gap?

 

1.  Of course they are more motivated, they have until recently not had a lot of opportunity

     other than to farm or work in sweatshops.

2.  I agree there is a gap and I think that these people have gotten a taste of success, they see a way to a better life and they are going for it.

3. They are no better than us, they are just where the U.S. once was – people get fat and lazy when you can get by with doing just enough to get by…

4.  Are they really more ambitious? It would appear so but maybe we are more ambitious in areas besides math and science.  Will their ambition last once their lives become easier?

5.  The ambition gap will grow like this whenever someone is excited about a new opportunity, whether it is an entire nation or someone who just learned how to ski.

6.  I did not know about this really. I know they do well in math and science but I did not think it was because they are more motivated, or at least I did not think about it like that. (until now)

 

What is your knowledge/understanding of the education gap?

 

1.  They are talking about increasing the requirements for math for high school students.  Will that

     really help? I think kids start to believe they aren’t good at math and never recover from that.

2.  I am not sure we have to be good at math, logic and problem solving can be developed other

    ways.  That is what is needed for technological advances.

3.  They need more hands on labs, more relevance.  The MEAP makes teachers just brow beat

     us to death about math and reading.  We need to like math and do well in it for more reasons

     than just good MEAP scores!

4.  Maybe Asians and Indians don’t have the choices we do when it comes to careers so they

     follow math and science.  I think they do a good job using technology for how backwards some

     parts of their country and government are.

5.  Parents need to help kids, teachers need to help kids, our leaders need to be less corrupt and

     encourage kids to do their best. Too much energy is spent trying to just survive the teen years,

     math and science can seem unimportant to us right now.

6.  I think MTV and rappers and maybe even Sponge Bob need to start promoting math and

     science and show kids how those subjects can be tied to careers that are high paying and

     fun. 

 

Appendix III

Generation X – Born 1962-1981 

 

Generation X Interviewee #1

What is your knowledge/understanding of the numbers gap?

 

Since I entered the work force in 1985, I have noticed an ever-increasing percentage of foreign-born technical people working for customers and suppliers, while those in purchasing and marketing generally seem to be American-born.

 

When my company was looking to fill a position in engineering dimensional management (which involves application of mathematics) a few years ago, we were unable to find any qualified internal candidates.  We hired a foreign-born person, who now holds training sessions to teach our American-born engineers how to use math to identify and solve engineering problems.

 

 

What is your knowledge/understanding of the ambition gap?

 

While many of the young people I encounter in the work force have ambition, it seems misguided, based more on entitlement than on industriousness.  I see single experts unwilling to go beyond their job descriptions to get things done and satisfy customers.

 

My company has a very generous bonus plan to share success, but most employees view it as something they are entitled to, not something earned based on company performance.  Some have left the company when they received bonuses that they felt were less than they deserved, ignoring the fact the bonus is not guaranteed and based solely on the company’s overall financial performance. 

 

I see ambition problems with my own children.  An illustration would be when, at dinnertime, they tell me, in effect, “I’m starving, but I won’t eat that.”  Well, then they are not truly starving, and do not know what real hunger is.  Of course, thankfully, neither do I.

 

 

What is you knowledge/understanding of the education gap?

 

When I was an engineering student at Michigan State in the early 1980s, I was struck by the fact that most of the graduate assistants in my engineering classes were either Asian, Indian, or from the Middle East.  Although many of the professors at that time appeared to be American-born, they seemed to be an aging group that would gradually be replaced by the graduate assistants then working on their advanced degrees.  It also seemed that among my fellow engineering students there were many foreign-born people, although probably not a majority at that time.

 

It seems that the USA does not effectively tap all its resources to fill technical roles.  Namely, it appears to me that females are not encouraged to the same degree as males to pursue math and science.  My wife and I are constantly fighting that.  Our two young daughters both get A’s in math, despite the feedback they get from others, including adult females, that math is boring and you shouldn’t like it.

 

I think our young people view technology as entertainment and, while adept in its use, do not appreciate the science behind it or the potential employment opportunities it offers for technically educated people as the world demands things to be better and faster.

 

 

Generation X Interviewee #2

 

What is your knowledge/understanding of the numbers gap?

 

Prior to your email, I had never heard of the term “numbers gap”, but I can think of real world examples of where the numbers gap is taking place. As an agriculture teacher, I can see first hand how the numbers gap is affecting American agriculture. More and more American farms are retiring from the business and are finding few family members or young people to take over the operations. If you look at statistics, you will see a rise in the number of farms created and run by Mexican born people.

 

            What is your knowledge/understanding of the ambition gap?

 

Once again you can see the ambition gap occurring in the agriculture industry. Not many young American’s want to have a job that involves manual labor. I believe young American people are afraid of it! And they don’t want to work for only minimum wage. When you drive past a farm, who do you see working in those fields? Today, you see many workers born in Mexico or from Latin American countries here either legally or illegally, working for minimum wage, supporting their families back in their native country.

 

          What is you knowledge/understanding of the education gap?


I could see the education gap everyday as I walked by Wells Hall at Michigan State University, which happens to be the building where all the math courses are taught. I wish I could understand what motivates foreign students into the fields of math and science because many of my science students have no interest in the field.


Generation X Interviewee #3

 

What is your knowledge/understanding of the numbers gap?

 

The numbers gap in regards to IT studies became evident to me as a high school computer teacher.  Less than 2% of my students are girls once you get beyond the BST classes.  I do see an increase in the number of girls who want to enter the field of medicine. This will require chemistry, biology, math, etc.  Pondering this question makes me wonder if the numbers gap is valid across all math/science fields or only in engineering.

 

 

What is your knowledge/understanding of the ambition gap?

 

It appears to be all around us and while I do think there is a stark contrast between the ambition to succeed for American young people and the Asians and Indians, it may be somewhat overstated. The young adults from these other countries finally see a way out of the poverty cycle and the inability to put their education to good use – and they are going for it!  Much like the former immigrant generations of the U.S. I do think that our own young people have more ambition than it would appear at first glance.  But do I think there is a gap – absolutely!

 

 

What is your knowledge/understanding of the education gap?

 

Just this week USA Today had a little graphic snapshot depicting the percentage of students from home and abroad who received doctorates in engineering from American universities.  The percentages were:  American – 42%, Foreign Nationals – 58%.  There’s some numbers for you!  I do not think this is a secret. What I do think is a secret, or at least has gone unnoticed is the fallout from this growing gap and what these numbers really mean. 

 

Generation X Interviewee #4

 

What is your knowledge/understanding of the numbers gap?

 

My knowledge of the numbers gap is limited.  I do believe, and am starting to see, that there is a major crisis developing in our nation’s young people.  They are no longer interested in achieving in the areas of science and engineering.  I feel that the aspirations of our youth are more towards entertainment and the social aspects of life rather than the technical fields.  And then you have foreign-born people coming in and taking those positions.

What is your knowledge/understanding of the ambition gap?

 

The ambition gap has been created because our children are being raised by their parents and the people around them just giving them what they want.  There is no longer the need for them to earn it.  This “giving” is crippling our nation.  In the time of our grandparents if there was something that they wanted they need to earn it, in order to get it or be able to buy it.  I feel this is because people of our nation have earned many things, and we are now getting lazy.  We as parents love our children and want to give them as much as we can, but we are hindering them from achieving what they can on their own.  Therefore I think we set lower expectations for them.

 

 What is your knowledge/understanding of the education gap?

Like both of the previous answers, all of these things go hand-in-hand.  We are enabling our children to be lazy.  We are not expecting them to achieve at the highest level they possibly can.  There are endless possibilities out there for success of our young people we just do not push them, or lead them in the right directions.

 

Boomers Generation – Born 1945-1961 

 

Boomers Interviewee #1

 

What is your knowledge/understanding of the numbers gap?

 

The concern of these 3 questions seems to be that "foreigners" are
filling the gaps in our need for people trained in math and science as
though somehow this is something to be alarmed about.  This has been
true in our history since the beginning, they took whatever jobs
Americans did not want or need.  Granted, usually, they were the
low-paying jobs and now they are not, however, they are indeed filling a
gap.  Why does this gap exist?  One important reason is that for decades
women have been for one reason or another, not encouraged to enter these
fields though they had the intelligence and ability to do so.  Parents,
schools, hiring executives, counselors, etc. have not encouraged little
girls or big girls to seek success in and pursue a career in these
fields.  This needs to change. This kind of thinking is part of the old
male-dominated thinking.  A question, are these so-called foreigners
American citizens, it seems they must be or planning to be to take
permanent employment here. If they are American citizens they have every
right to pursue whatever jobs they are qualified for without
discrimination and we are probably fortunate to have them.

 

What is your knowledge/understanding of the ambition gap?

 

Many young people today dress, act and look like they have
no ambition. Many times it is not true. Ambition usually comes with
maturity, not always present in youth.  Most of the time ambition comes
from how children are raised, if their parents were ambitious and
successful they realize the good life comes from this, most parents make
that point at every opportunity.  Parents usually recognize the talents
of their children and try to direct them into fields in which they would
be good. But, they too, do not always encourage their girls in the same
way they encourage their boys when it comes to being engineers, computer
analyst, math and science teachers, etc. Some children are ambitious
from birth others need to see the connection between the good life and
being ambitious and successful.  Sometimes a teacher gets hold of a
student he or she sees as having a talent for certain things and tries to
lead them in that direction by giving confidence, etc. But the solving of
this problem lies mostly with the parents who encourage or discourage and
explain cause and effect with ambition and success

 

What is your knowledge/understanding of the education gap?

 

For the most part teachers do try to stimulate their students to perform at their best in every subject. Some math and science teachers need to find ways to make their subject
more interesting by not just using the method of lecture to impart information.  Good teachers give challenging homework assignments causing creative thinking to take place, they vary the day-to-day routine with group work, etc. Children can be stimulated, but not all children will
like math because it is often abstract and does not lend itself to excitement.  Once a well-known math teacher said that no ones hates math, they have just not had good teachers.  It is not hard to make science interesting as most young people have a natural affinity to the environment and see the connections with man and his well being. But again, we need to encourage ALL of the students, not just the boys.  If over 60 percent of our graduate students are foreign students it speaks well for our educational system that they would like to come here for their graduate work, we are still looked up to for our edge on future technology inventions. It is a global world and whenever a student from any country likes and learns more about science in math it helps us all.
Is "dirty secrets" a good name for these concerns?

 

Boomers Interviewee #2

 

What is your knowledge/understanding of the numbers gap?

 

First of all we agree with all the statements made by Mr. Friedman and have our thoughts about how they have come about.

 

To begin with there has been an ethical decay and a loss of patriotism in the United States. This has lead to people no longer caring about purchasing products made in the United States but buying mainly with a view towards costs regardless of industries being closed.  As result of this, and many other reasons, outsourcing has taken over many businesses that employed scientists, mathematicians, and engineers.  Therefore fewer students are taking these subjects fearing there would not be suitable employment for them. 

 

What is your knowledge/understanding of the ambition gap?


 Entitlement is a good description of what many of today’s young people think

 in regards to their future lifestyle.  Too many of young people have not had to work for what they have been given.  Many of them have not known true hardship or endured character-building experiences. That’s not to deny that many children are afforded few, if any opportunities to break out of a poverty-ridden cycle.  But even many of those young adults seem to just get discouraged and seek the path of least resistance rather than pulling themselves up by the bootstraps and forging ahead.

 

What is your knowledge/understanding of the education gap?

 

Secondly our educational system no longer lends itself towards teaching students to better themselves.  There is entirely too much emphasis on passing tests, athletic awards instead of academic, and programs that are full of non essentials, i.e., self esteem, balancing check books and the like.  Parents have surrendered their children to the schools with little or no thought of their responsibility. Yes foreign students abound here, we offer more than their own homelands, but for how long?

 


 

Boomers Interviewee #3


What is your knowledge/understanding of the numbers gap?

Freidman might be correct if he has the facts and they should be published to stimulate a national conversation.  I have not read the book but having taught a little history over the years I do know that America can respond when & if a crisis is at hand.  The Manhattan Project and Marshall Plan come to mind and, more recently, landmark educational legislation, the national interstate highway system, NASA, state & national environmental programs and many more all indicate that a federal effort can be jump-started when the spirit strikes.  Two remarkable, specific educational efforts from the past need to awake the national conscience if Freidman's thesis is correct; namely an overdue renewal of the National Defense Education Act which stimulated, however late, the teaching of math & science at the elementary & secondary levels; and a new version of the Elementary & Secondary Education of 1965 to remind all of us that equality of educational opportunity does not yet exist in this country.  These two extraordinary programs rank up there with the G.I. Bill of Rights and I cannot think of any other federal investments which provide so much promise to what it means to be an American.

 

What is your knowledge/understanding of the ambition gap?

 

It is tempting to start a discourse on the "disappearance of the middle class" or on the out-sourcing of millions of jobs around the world, etc. but there is at least an argument and/or opinion to be expressed about the "perceived lack of ambition of American youth".  It is not so simple as saying "...that some have it and some don't" but, at least since the post World War II years or the advent of the "baby boomers" we might have allowed ourselves to reach shift into neutral at our peril.  When positive, productive role models vanish or are reduced and replaced by a daily diet of questionable visual stimuli and progress toward meaningful goals, e.g. self-worth, education, family, service, etc. are not seen as rewarding to our youth then there is trouble down the road, and we seem to already be down that road.  Access to leisure has been well-earned by many but with no or little effort this "way of life" becomes short-lived and illusory.

Capitalism has had a mixed track record but it is better than no capitalism at all.  It provided ample stimulation in the past and apparently must prove itself again.  The previously mentioned "meaningful goals" all have at least one thing in common, security.  We haven't lost the way but we may be standing at a fork in the road.

 

What is your knowledge/understanding of the education gap?

 

It is apparent that my responses to #1 and #2 are central to responding to #3.  Democracy needs several shots in the arm or maybe a national transfusion to stimulate a re-direction in American education as we find ourselves in the 21st century.  Yes, this will require more math & science but that is hardly all.  I think an educational revolution might be necessary with a re-examination of what it is all about.  We would find once again that all of it, i.e. the educational process, is inter-related.  It is obvious that a replay of the 29the century will be insufficient.  We need some educational mine-detectors to steer us toward a better national course, one which does not cut federal & state funding to education, and one which really puts our energy where it should be.   Yes, we should turn up the volume on the "quiet crisis" chart a new national course.

It isn't impossible; it is essential.

 


 

 

Findings and Comparisons

 

Numbers Gap 

Interviews - Ages 17- 20

 

All but one of the six students has heard, albeit in different terms, about the numbers gap.  As is typical of their age, they do not seem concerned and one of them acts as though the Asians are good at math – “just because they are” without seeing any real cause and effect as to whether or not the Asians/Indians apply themselves more in those fields.  One student states that he does think they are ahead of us with computer knowledge and is not worried about security/protocol analysis jobs being outsourced.  Another student says the math and science classes are boring and schools need to provide more hands-on, relevant experiences.   Another points out that perhaps it is more affordable to go to college in Asia and India while another writes it all off to cultural differences.

 

Generation X – Born 1962-1981

 

The Generation X crowd was much more in tune and realistic regarding what Friedman calls the ‘Numbers Gap.’  Like the younger set, this group had not heard the phenomenon referred to as a numbers gap but once I defined it, they all concurred they had noticed it.  From the engineer I interviewed who sees an increasing number of foreign-born technical people working for customers and suppliers to the agriculture teacher who notices more and more American farmers retiring and agriculture being taken over by Mexican born people.  The IT teacher sees far too many young women enrolling in IT classes and thinks there is an entire gender that has not been effectively tapped to keep this country competitive. One interviewee thinks our youth our gravitating to entertainment and the social aspects of life rather than the technical fields.

 

Boomers Generation – Born 1945-1961

 

I found the responses from this group very interesting.  The responses ranged from someone wondering why we are alarmed by foreigners surpassing us in math and science to the person who blames it primarily on the lack of patriotism and people not buying American.  One interviewee mentions the gender issue again and states that young women are not encouraged enough to enter technical fields and that math and science need to be taught in more interesting ways.  One wonders if these foreign born students graduating from our schools are American citizens and if they are – what’s the problem?!  Another interesting point was the participant who writes that we need to awake the national conscience and renew the National Defense Education Act which stimulated the teaching of math and science at the elementary and secondary levels.  Also needed, a new version of the Elementary & Secondary Education Act of 1965 to remind us that equality of educational opportunity does not yet exist in this country.

 

 

Ambition Gap 

 

Interviews - Ages 17- 20

 

The younger set of interviewees was not surprised by the information introduced to them regarding the ambition gap.  One student of the six had not heard about the ambition gap or thought about it and is not certain that just because they excel at math and science, that it points to them being more motivated.  The rest of the students seem to hone in on the fact that given a chance for a better life, the first time you glimpse that opportunity can be powerful.  They associate the ambition the Indian and Asian students appear to have with the fact that their lives have been hard and lacking and now they see a way out.

 

Generation X – Born 1962-1981

 

The Generation X’ers think Friedman speaks the truth when he says today’s young adults – as well as many middle aged adults have a sense of entitlement.  People act as though they are ‘owed’ something rather than having to earn or work for it.  The agriculture teacher thinks that one reason farming is going by the wayside as far as American farmers is that people do not want to engage in manual labor. It is considered too hard.  One interviewee believes our young people may not lack quite as much ambition as they would like you to think. Another responds that the ‘giving’ is crippling this nation.  Kids do not have to ‘earn’ things. Everything is given to them.

 

Boomers Generation – Born 1945-1961

 

As one may suspect, this group was the hardest on our young people and mention that they have seen the ambition gap for many years prior to the world becoming flat.  One respondent does say that young people may have more ambition than it appears.  There is no debate about the fact that those from developing countries are motivated to get ahead and out of the poverty cycle that has been a burden of their past.  One states that access to leisure has been well earned by many but with no or little effort, this “way of life” becomes short-lived and illusory. Capitalism has had a mixed track record but it is better than no capitalism at all. It provided ample stimulation in the past and apparently must prove itself again.

 

 

Education Gap 

 

Interviews - Ages 17- 20

 

The young participants begin by saying that kids begin to believe at a very young age that they are not good at math and/or that science is boring.  They speak again of more meaningful teaching tools to make it relevant.  They also make the point that it is not necessarily just math one needs to excel at to make it in today’s high tech world.  They mention logic and problem solving skills.  They wonder if the Asians and Indians do not have as many career choices as them so they default to the math and science careers.  This group who spend a good portion of their life stimulated by electronic media think that there should be more promotion of the math and sciences by their ‘heroes.’

 

Generation X – Born 1962-1981

 

The engineer and horticulture teacher in this group went through college witnessing American professors begin to retire as foreign born students took over as their Graduate Assistants while working on advanced degrees in math, engineering and science.  Bringing more females on board to beef up America’s math and science coffers is mentioned again.  One participant states that this education gap is hardly a secret and points to a USA Today graphic depicting the percentage of students from home and abroad who received doctorates in engineering from American universities.   42% are American in the graphic and 58% are Foreign Nationals. 

 

Boomers Generation – Born 1945-1961

 

This group takes note that if 60% of our graduate students are foreign students, it speaks well for our educational system.  One person writes that it is a global world and if a student from any country likes and learns more about math and science – it helps all of us!   Students need teachers who engage them in the subjects of math and science and parents need to encourage both boys and girls to do well in these subject areas.  Another interviewee says that our educational system no longer lends itself towards teaching students to better themselves.  There is too much emphasis on passing tests, athletic awards instead of academic and too many programs full of non-essentials.  Parents have put too much responsibility on the schools for raising children with ethics.  One response states that democracy needs several shots in the arm or maybe a national transfusion to stimulate a re-direction in American education as we find ourselves in the 21st century.  In summary, this group believes we should turn up the volume on the “quiet crisis” and chart a new national course.  It isn’t impossible; it is essential.

 

 

References

 

Friedman, Thomas. The World Is Flat A Brief History of the Twenty-first Century. 1st edition. New York, Farrar, Straus and Giroux, 2005.

 

Computing Error - http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/01/opinion/01wed3.html?

 

Study Plays Down Export of Computer Jobs - http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/23/technology/23outsource.html?

 

Marklin, Lin – Interview Questions and Format – EDT 646 – Globalization & Educational Technology